Drowned Seiko Diver watch, the 2 fatal errors

Joshua Grillet

The Seiko Samuraï diver’s watch

Learning from your mistakes is good, but learning from the mistakes of others is much better.

Today we find ourselves facing a best seller of Seiko diving watches, the Samuraï, here in the Blue Lagoon limited edition released in 2017.

Seiko samurai blue lagoon

Diving Watch Observation

I was entrusted with this watch which took on water after a swim.

Here is the Samurai as I received it at the workshop:

seiko samurai blue lagoon drowned

seiko samurai blue lagoon drowned

seiko samurai blue lagoon drowned

seiko samurai blue lagoon drowned

The dial is slightly pitted and small drops of water are still there. The indexes are oxidized and the Lumibrite is blistered in places, mainly at noon and 6 o'clock.

The date disc has taken on a pretty rusty tint.

I continue the inspection.

seiko samurai blue lagoon drowned background

There is some slime inside the bottom of the box.

Hang in there for the rest.

seiko samurai blue lagoon rusty movement 4r35

The 4R35 movement is a pile of rust.

How can water and rust be found in a 200m waterproof watch?

- Water: It entered while swimming in the sea when the screwed crown was not correctly locked.

- Rust: The incident took place in August and the watch arrived at the workshop at the end of December. The movement did not appreciate living with sea water for 5 months.

I continue the disassembly and remove the needles.

seiko samurai broken needle

The troubles continue. The barrel of the second hand has separated from its body.

I remove the dial.

seiko samurai blue lagoon rust dial

seiko 4r35 rust

Without surprise.

The Seiko NH35 movement

The objective here is to get the watch back into operation at a lower cost at the customer's request. And for that I have to replace the movement.

Seiko markets its 4R35 movement to numerous micro-brands. The movement is anonymous and bears the name NH35.

Good news! It is very affordable and accessible. You can find it here :

NH35 movement

nh35 nh36 movement

movement nh35 NH36

The movement is there, I can move on to winding.

The needle needs to be repaired first. Using a Seitz stem, I'm going to re-throw the barrel.

seitz stem

seitz stem

seitz needle stem

The dial is cleaned as best as possible, I install it on the movement and place the hands.

seko samurai blue lagoon restoration

Before moving on to the casing, I test the watertightness of the case.

seiko samurai blue lagoon waterproof test

It's a failure, water enters the box through the crown. After inspection, one of the 3 seals is defective, it must be replaced with a new one.

Seiko samurai blue lagoon gasket replacement

Following replacement of the seal, the test finally proved conclusive.

seiko samurai bergeon waterproof test

The case is waterproof and clean, I can reassemble everything.

seko samurai blue lagoon restoration

seiko samurai blue lagoon restoration

This Seiko Samurai now functions perfectly thanks to its new movement but some scars remain.

They are even more noticeable in this photo in the dark.

lumeshot lumibrite seiko samurai

To conclude, some advice:

- Remember to screw in the screw-down crown all the way. Otherwise it is an entry point for dust and water in liquid and gaseous form.

- If you use your watch for aquatic activities, you must have its water resistance checked every year by a watchmaker.

- If, despite this, your watch gets wet, take it to a watchmaker as soon as possible. Without this, his condition will become more and more critical.

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And you, for or against swimming with your watch?

Joshua Grillet

Founder of LumeVille and watchmaker

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7 comments

Merci Yannis !
Le client a constaté que la couronne était dévissée.
Depuis l’accident, le client n’a pas touché à la montre donc c’est probablement le contact direct avec l’eau de mer qui a abîmé le joint.
Et la montre est resté “dans son jus” d’août à décembre, ce qui n’aide pas :)

LumeVille

Bonjour, super reportage de sauvetage (en mer 😄) !
Le joint défectueux ne peut pas expliquer à lui seul la prise d’eau, le client a bien constaté que la couronne était dévissée ?
Comment un joint peut-il si vite s’endommager sur une montre récente ?
Merci d’avance !

Yannis

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